Revenue Marketing Raw
Revenue Marketing Raw is a weekly unscripted B2B marketing podcast hosted by Jeff Pedowitz and Dr. Debbie Qaqish of The Pedowitz Group. Each 20-30 minute episode tackles one topic that makes CMOs sweat: AI's real impact on marketing teams, the death of MQLs, what's broken about pipeline coverage, why most ABM is just expensive lead gen, how Answer Engine Optimization (AEO) is replacing SEO, and what it actually takes to run marketing as a revenue function.
The show is built for senior B2B marketing leaders: CMOs being asked to do more with less, VPs of Marketing and RevOps tired of dashboards that don't tie to revenue, Marketing Operations leaders stuck in IT support mode, and founders evaluating where AI moves the needle versus where it's theater.
What makes it different: no guest pitches, no vendor sponsorships, no buzzwords, no scripted talking points. Just two senior practitioners, together representing 40+ years of advising Fortune 500 CMOs, saying the quiet part out loud. Debbie coined the term "Revenue Marketing" in 2010, TPG formalized it in 2012, and she has since authored Rise of the Revenue Marketer and From Backroom to Boardroom. Jeff has authored F the Funnel, The Revenue Marketer, AI Agents Made Simple, and The Attic and The Algorithm, and hosts CMO Insights, where he has interviewed 130+ marketing leaders.
New episodes drop every Tuesday. Watch on YouTube and Vimeo, listen on Apple Podcasts and Spotify, or subscribe to the weekly email at pedowitzgroup.com/revenue-marketing-raw.
Episodes

Wednesday May 06, 2026
Wednesday May 06, 2026
97% of B2B companies say their ABM works. Only 52% can actually prove it. The other 45% are doing lead gen with a target account list and a six-figure ABX platform fee. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish unmask the ABM delusion: most teams handed a list of accounts from sales, ran the same playbook, and slapped "ABM" on the deck. They argue you don't need an expensive ABX platform until your content strategy and sales partnership are nailed down — that you can start with your existing MAP plus basic intent tracking, and that the same trap is now playing out with AI ("we bought a tool with AI in the name, so we're doing AI"). They also reframe how marketing should prove revenue impact: not through attribution gymnastics, but through co-owning the number with sales. If your ABM program looks like a list, a campaign, and a vendor invoice, this episode is a refund waiting to happen.

Wednesday May 06, 2026
Wednesday May 06, 2026
What if the biggest obstacle to your marketing success is thinking you're already successful? Only 15-20% of marketers operate at the revenue marketing stage — but ask CMOs how their team is doing, and almost all of them rate themselves at the top. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish unpack the perception gap costing organizations millions in untapped revenue. They argue that the single highest-leverage change a marketing org can make is aligning team metrics to the same revenue goal sales is carrying — They tackle why CMO-level accountability isn't enough, why a team that "just shows up to work" is a leadership problem, and how the revenue marketing maturity assessment exposes the gap between what teams say they do and what they actually deliver. If you think you're a revenue marketing org, this episode is the test.

Wednesday May 06, 2026
Wednesday May 06, 2026
The Pedowitz Group went from 10,000 monthly website visitors to 10,000 daily visitors in four weeks. The lever? Answer Engine Optimization — building content that ChatGPT, Claude, Perplexity, and Gemini cite when buyers ask questions. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish walk through exactly how they did it: starting with the questions your customers and prospects are actually asking inside LLMs, building topic clusters that link strategic anchor assets like the Revenue Marketing Index and ROI calculators, and writing pages that aren't sales commercials but answer real buyer questions with unique insights. They also tackle the org-design question every CMO is now wrestling with: what team owns AEO — Web/SEO, Demand Gen, or MarOps? If your buyers are searching inside AI engines and you're still optimizing for Google, this episode is the wake-up call.

Wednesday May 06, 2026
Wednesday May 06, 2026
We cut our MarTech spend by 80% and got more effective. Most marketing teams are still using less than 20% of the tech they're already paying for — drowning in features, paying for licenses they can't operate, and stuck on the hamster wheel of endless campaign execution. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish unpack the capacity crisis hiding inside every marketing org. They explain why marketers are still using marketing automation as an email tool in 2025, why "marketing enablement" is the most-needed function nobody has, and what unlocking the other 80% of capacity actually looks like — not by adding more tools, but by combining strategy, AI, and a learning culture inside the team. The hard truth: you don't have a tech problem, you have a strategy and skills problem. And you're paying twice for it.

Wednesday May 06, 2026
Wednesday May 06, 2026
Should Marketing Ops report to RevOps? It's the most contentious org-design debate in B2B right now, and the answer most companies are landing on is quietly killing their ability to do revenue marketing at all. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish take the gloves off on the MarOps vs. RevOps reporting question. They argue that the moment marketing loses ownership of its tech stack — whether to IT, to a Sales-led RevOps team, or to a reactive shared-services group — marketing also loses the ability to be a revenue engine. They walk through when RevOps under a COO actually works, why a reactive RevOps function plus a reactive MarOps function equals a slower, dumber organization, and what marketing leaders need to understand about MarOps before they hand it off to someone else. If your CFO is asking "why don't we just consolidate this," send them this episode first.

Wednesday May 06, 2026
Wednesday May 06, 2026
Walk into any HubSpot keynote at INBOUND and ask the room: what percent of your MarTech stack are you actually using? The answer is 10%. Meanwhile, HubSpot just dropped 200+ new features, the innovation gap is widening to a chasm, and most marketers can't keep up. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish unpack what INBOUND 25 actually revealed about marketing's innovation crisis: a 20-year investment in websites that's now nearly worthless, the death of traditional search, and the seismic shift from SEO to AEO that's about to vaporize billions of dollars in search marketing budgets. They walk through what HubSpot's roadmap is really telling you about the future — agents, orchestration at scale, true 1:1 personalization through AI — and why the marketers stuck running campaigns the way they did in 2018 are about to be replaced by the ones who learned to operate the new stack. If you're not at 50%+ adoption of your MarTech, this episode is your wake-up call.

Wednesday May 06, 2026
Wednesday May 06, 2026
The marketing industry has a dirty secret: nobody wants to train anybody anymore. Senior marketers complain that new grads can't do the work. New grads complain they were never taught. And in the middle, a generation of marketing talent is being abandoned to learn AI, attribution, and revenue marketing on YouTube. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish take aim at the talent crisis the industry refuses to talk about. They argue that marketing needs the same enablement function sales has had for decades, that the MBAs being minted today have no practical skills the modern marketing org actually needs, and that the future of marketing isn't AI or technology — it's human performance. If you've ever asked "why can't we hire good marketers anymore," this episode says the quiet part out loud: it's because we stopped teaching them.

Wednesday May 06, 2026
Wednesday May 06, 2026
Most marketing teams can't pull a clean attribution report — but they're being told to deploy 750 AI agents by the end of the quarter. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish call out the absurd gap between the AI hype cycle and the operational reality of most marketing departments. They unpack what AI agents actually do (hint: they connect systems and take action across them, not replace your MAP), why the executive pressure to adopt is about to get worse, and the one CEO who fired 80% of his workforce because they wouldn't go all in on AI. They also draw the line between AI as a tool and AI as an extended workforce — a distinction most CMOs haven't internalized yet. If your team has the "grab-it-and-growl" mentality, you'll be fine. If they're still resisting, your job is on the clock.

Wednesday May 06, 2026
Wednesday May 06, 2026
Marketing Ops was supposed to be the strategic engine of modern marketing. Instead, most teams have been demoted to the ticket queue — running campaigns, managing licenses, cleaning lists, and being asked ”how many pieces of tech can we get you to run?” In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish unpack why MarOps got stuck in IT support mode, why Sales is now buying martech directly because Marketing can’t move fast enough, and what the role looks like when you actually rebuild it from a blank sheet of paper. They make the case that the best Marketing Ops leaders are process architects and revenue engineers, not platform administrators — and that the AI moment is the forcing function that will either elevate MarOps to a seat at the executive table or eliminate it entirely. If your MarOps team is buried in tickets, this is the episode that gets you out.

Wednesday May 06, 2026
Wednesday May 06, 2026
The average CMO tenure is down to 20 months. Marketing budgets have ballooned from 4% to 13% of revenue. And every quarter, more boards quietly ask whether the role itself is still necessary. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish take on the question every CEO is whispering in the boardroom: do we need a CMO anymore — or should we just promote the Marketing Ops person and call it a day? They unpack why so many CMOs get hired into a job designed to fail, the credibility gap that keeps them from earning a real revenue number, and the uncomfortable truth that the marketers who know how to position every product in the company can't seem to position themselves. If you're a CMO who feels one quarter from being replaced, this episode is the mirror — and the playbook.

