Revenue Marketing Raw
Revenue Marketing Raw is a weekly unscripted B2B marketing podcast hosted by Jeff Pedowitz and Dr. Debbie Qaqish of The Pedowitz Group. Each 20-30 minute episode tackles one topic that makes CMOs sweat: AI's real impact on marketing teams, the death of MQLs, what's broken about pipeline coverage, why most ABM is just expensive lead gen, how Answer Engine Optimization (AEO) is replacing SEO, and what it actually takes to run marketing as a revenue function.
The show is built for senior B2B marketing leaders: CMOs being asked to do more with less, VPs of Marketing and RevOps tired of dashboards that don't tie to revenue, Marketing Operations leaders stuck in IT support mode, and founders evaluating where AI moves the needle versus where it's theater.
What makes it different: no guest pitches, no vendor sponsorships, no buzzwords, no scripted talking points. Just two senior practitioners, together representing 40+ years of advising Fortune 500 CMOs, saying the quiet part out loud. Debbie coined the term "Revenue Marketing" in 2010, TPG formalized it in 2012, and she has since authored Rise of the Revenue Marketer and From Backroom to Boardroom. Jeff has authored F the Funnel, The Revenue Marketer, AI Agents Made Simple, and The Attic and The Algorithm, and hosts CMO Insights, where he has interviewed 130+ marketing leaders.
New episodes drop every Tuesday. Watch on YouTube and Vimeo, listen on Apple Podcasts and Spotify, or subscribe to the weekly email at pedowitzgroup.com/revenue-marketing-raw.
Episodes

Thursday May 07, 2026
Thursday May 07, 2026
On the first day of 2026, the market gave to me… an AI agent running autonomously. In this solo (and brutally honest) episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz runs through the twelve trends that will define B2B marketing next year — set to a familiar holiday cadence and absolutely zero corporate cheer. AI agents making thousands of calls a minute. Twelve predictive models. Eight hyper-personalized journeys. Seven SDRs panicking. Three dead cookies. Two merged tech stacks. And the CFO who is finally smiling because the dashboards are real this time. Jeff tackles the data hygiene reckoning that's been kicked down the road for a decade, why MarOps and RevOps will become the heartbeat of the organization in 2026, and why the marketers who've been blaming their data for five straight planning seasons are about to lose the argument forever. If you're heading into next year's planning cycle, this is the highlight reel.

Thursday May 07, 2026
Thursday May 07, 2026
Here's the description for episode #21:
Is Your Sales Team Selling... or Just Forecasting?
Most sales processes weren't built to help your team win deals. They were built to help average salespeople sell predictably enough that the CFO could forecast quarterly. There's a difference, and it's costing you revenue. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish call out the legacy trap most B2B sales orgs have walked into. When things get hard, sales doubles down on internal process — pipeline reviews, deal stages, MEDDPICC fields — instead of refocusing on the buyer who's already 70% through the journey before they'll talk to a rep. They unpack "organizational couch potato syndrome" (the comfort routine that's strangling your sales team), why 90-95% of marketing-generated leads still go un-followed-up, and where AI is actually helping (real-time engagement, personalized outreach, intent-aware alerts) versus where it's just lipstick on a broken culture. If your sales team is running 2025 plays from a 1990 process, this episode is the wake-up call.

Thursday May 07, 2026
Thursday May 07, 2026
Anthropic is doing pop-ups. IBM is running activations. Cursor is staging experiences that have nothing to do with a lead form. B2B is suddenly stealing every play from the consumer marketing playbook — and CMOs are quietly wondering whether it's the future or the panic. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish unpack when B2B experiential actually works, when it's an expensive distraction, and what every CMO has to prove before finance kills the budget. They argue the test isn't whether the experience is fun — it's whether it ladders directly to the brand promise. If your brand stands for customer obsession and your activation reinforces customer obsession, you've earned the right to do it. If it's a party with your logo on the wall, you've earned a budget cut. They also tackle the harder question: in an AI-first market where every company is racing to differentiate on the same tech, brand affinity is becoming the only durable moat — and most B2B brands haven't earned one yet.

Wednesday May 06, 2026
Wednesday May 06, 2026
Attribution is still the fastest way to start an internal fight — because most models were built to defend budgets, not drive revenue decisions. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish dismantle the attribution theater that dominates B2B reporting. They argue the right benchmark isn't a multi-touch model with twelve weighting rules; it's a single number — the percentage of top-line revenue you spend on sales and marketing, and whether the ROI on that spend grows year over year. They walk through what changes when an org stops fighting about attribution and stands up a true revenue team — sales and marketing under one number, one customer journey, one set of growth goals across acquisition, renewal, and expansion. They share the story of a CMO who told her sales team she wasn't doing five trade shows next year, the uproar that followed, and what that exchange revealed about who actually understood the revenue math. If your attribution dashboard is the proxy for sales-marketing alignment, this episode is the reset.

Wednesday May 06, 2026
Wednesday May 06, 2026
Most of your "A" leads never close. Most of your closed-won deals were never MQLs in the first place. Roughly 30% of teams running marketing automation don't even have lead scoring turned on. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish expose lead scoring's dirty little secret: most models are stuck scoring top-of-funnel net-new leads using behaviors that no longer correlate with revenue. They walk through what good scoring actually requires — using AI to interpret behavior signals at depth, scoring beyond the new-logo funnel into customer expansion (NPS, login rates, usage, renewal participation), and the discipline of making sure every lead handed to sales is the highest-converting one possible. Their argument is blunt: if marketing isn't hyper-focused on conversion-to-revenue, what is the point of showing up? If you've left your scoring model untouched since the year you implemented Marketo, this episode is the audit.

Wednesday May 06, 2026
Wednesday May 06, 2026
Brands stopped investing in thought leadership. Buyers stopped looking for it. Was it ever actually moving revenue, or was it always just expensive brand theater? In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish reframe the conversation entirely. They argue that the difference between thought leadership content and regular content isn't tone or budget — it's whether the reader changes their behavior after consuming it. If someone reads your piece and operates differently the next day, that's thought leadership. If not, it's marketing collateral with a fancier deck. They unpack why brand and thought leadership are two sides of the same coin (or sometimes the same side), how the term "revenue marketing" itself was an act of thought leadership that repositioned an entire profession, and what happens when you stop treating thought leadership as quarterly content drops and start treating it as the engine that elevates a brand from "pens and mugs department" to revenue driver. If your thought leadership program looks like a stack of whitepapers, this episode is the audit.

Wednesday May 06, 2026
Wednesday May 06, 2026
CMOs love the idea of owning BDRs and inside sales. It looks like the ultimate proof that marketing drives revenue — own the function, own the number, end the alignment debate forever. Then they live it for a quarter and learn the lesson nobody warned them about. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish unpack what actually happens when a CMO takes the BDR org. They share what a CMO learns the hard way: it's not about marketing — it's about execution, compensation, calls, meetings, follow-ups, and the uncomfortable truth that sales doesn't trust marketing for reasons most CMOs have never been close enough to see. They tackle why AI doesn't change the accountability equation (a human still owns the number), how owning BDRs forces marketing to think in pipeline-forecast terms, and why the experience changes how a CMO works with sales forever — even after the org chart changes back. If you've been lobbying to bring BDRs under marketing, listen first.

Wednesday May 06, 2026
Wednesday May 06, 2026
Brave CMOs optimize. Bold CMOs transform. There's a chasm between the two, and it's the difference between a marketing org that drives real revenue and one that quietly executes campaigns until the next leadership change. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish break down what separates bold CMOs from the rest. Boldness, they argue, starts with how a CMO talks to the executive team — leading with a revenue vision, not a MarTech budget request. Bold means saying no to a million dollars in tech spend when the strategy isn't ready. Bold means refusing to lead transformation alone — if the team isn't bringing ideas, the team is the problem. They share the story of a bold CMO who got handed a stump speech to transform a lead-generation team into a revenue marketing engine, and the cautionary tale of a CMO whose org was so resistant the transformation got stuck below the executive line. If you've been "optimizing" for three quarters, this episode is the mirror.

Wednesday May 06, 2026
Wednesday May 06, 2026
Walk into most marketing departments, ask why they have 47 tools, and listen to the answer. You won't hear "to drive revenue." You'll hear "because the vendor demoed well." In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish call out the absurd state of MarTech governance — stacks built for analyst reports, not for revenue. They argue that your stack should be reverse-engineered from one question (where do we make impact on the customer journey, and what does that require), that data hygiene is the single dirtiest secret in the AI era, and that MarOps teams need to operate with the discipline of an IT department — not ad hoc buying, but architecture, governance, and integrations that ladder to revenue. They also drop the cleanest tactical hack of the season: feed your current stack into ChatGPT or Claude and ask it to map every tool to the buyer journey. Most stacks won't survive the audit.

Wednesday May 06, 2026
Wednesday May 06, 2026
Your pipeline isn't 3x covered. It's 80% garbage deals padding the forecast while you quietly sweat about making the quarter. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish strip the bullshit out of B2B's most overused number. They expose why "3x coverage" is sales theater, why marketing's MQL hand-off is broken at the definitional level (most companies still don't have a shared customer profile), and why marketing-attributed first-touch deals are quietly inflating both forecasts and egos. The fix isn't more leads or a better attribution dashboard — it's sales and marketing sitting down to redefine the life of a lead together, with AI agents doing the at-scale grunt work that humans never had time for. If your CRO is walking into the QBR claiming 3x coverage, this episode is the gut check before someone runs the math on the deals that won't close.

