Revenue Marketing Raw

Revenue Marketing Raw is a weekly unscripted B2B marketing podcast hosted by Jeff Pedowitz and Dr. Debbie Qaqish of The Pedowitz Group. Each 20-30 minute episode tackles one topic that makes CMOs sweat: AI's real impact on marketing teams, the death of MQLs, what's broken about pipeline coverage, why most ABM is just expensive lead gen, how Answer Engine Optimization (AEO) is replacing SEO, and what it actually takes to run marketing as a revenue function.

The show is built for senior B2B marketing leaders: CMOs being asked to do more with less, VPs of Marketing and RevOps tired of dashboards that don't tie to revenue, Marketing Operations leaders stuck in IT support mode, and founders evaluating where AI moves the needle versus where it's theater.

What makes it different: no guest pitches, no vendor sponsorships, no buzzwords, no scripted talking points. Just two senior practitioners, together representing 40+ years of advising Fortune 500 CMOs, saying the quiet part out loud. Debbie coined the term "Revenue Marketing" in 2010, TPG formalized it in 2012, and she has since authored Rise of the Revenue Marketer and From Backroom to Boardroom. Jeff has authored F the Funnel, The Revenue Marketer, AI Agents Made Simple, and The Attic and The Algorithm, and hosts CMO Insights, where he has interviewed 130+ marketing leaders.

New episodes drop every Tuesday. Watch on YouTube and Vimeo, listen on Apple Podcasts and Spotify, or subscribe to the weekly email at pedowitzgroup.com/revenue-marketing-raw.

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Episodes

4 days ago

Everyone is talking about AI replacing marketers. Almost no one is writing job descriptions for the roles coming next. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish go where most marketing leaders are afraid to: what the marketing org chart actually looks like in 2027. The MarOps manager becomes an AI process architect. The demand gen team shrinks because agents are now executing the campaigns. Sales as a function may not survive the decade in its current form. The customer experience function — finally — gets unified across every team that touches a buyer, because AI makes the silos indefensible. They walk through what every CMO should be doing right now: pull the whole marketing team into a room, audit what AI capabilities you actually have in your hands, agree on standards for what AI success looks like inside your team, and build the multi-year capability map. They also tackle the question nobody wants to answer out loud: between sales and marketing, which function gets blown up first? If you're hiring, restructuring, or planning headcount for next year, this is the episode that should change how you write the org chart.

4 days ago

Answer Engine Optimization isn't SEO 2.0. It's not even the same game. SEO is a click economy — your goal is to win the visit. AEO is a citation economy — your goal is to be the answer buyers see before they ever click anything. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish strip the hype off AEO and lay out what actually works. They walk through how the LLMs decide which brands they cite — third-party authority, organic conversations on Reddit and forums, structured topical depth — and why the marketers who built thousands of empty SEO landing pages are now sitting on a depreciating asset. They make the case for building topic clusters around what you actually want to be known for (Jeff's are revenue marketing, AEO, and HubSpot), monitoring branded mentions across organic conversation channels, and treating Reddit as a serious B2B intent signal that virtually no marketer is actually mining. They also tackle the strategic question: do you optimize content to flatter your own brand, or do you write to make AI engines confidently cite you over your competitors? If your AEO strategy is "we added schema markup," this episode is the next ten chapters.

4 days ago

Only 30% of CMOs trust their own attribution numbers. The other 70% know the dashboard is theater — they just don't have anything better to defend the budget with. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish call time of death on traditional marketing attribution and lay out what actually replaces it. They argue the right unit of measurement isn't the lead or the touchpoint — it's the account. Cohort growth. Customer lifetime value. Wallet share. Pipeline penetration. And the single conversation every CMO needs to have this quarter: sit down with the CFO and the RevOps leader, and agree together on what proves ROI to the business — before the CFO defines it for you. They tackle why AI search is shattering the click-attribution model entirely, why content slop is making the data even worse, and why the marketers who'll survive the next 18 months are the ones treating marketing as a financial function, not a campaign function. If your dashboard still revolves around touchpoints, this episode is the obituary.

4 days ago

Most people use ChatGPT to avoid thinking. They paste in a half-formed problem and ask the AI to fix it. The output is fine. The thinking is gone. In this solo episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz reframes how marketers should actually be using AI: not as a faster way to crank out work, but as a mirror that forces clarity before you commit to anything. Jeff walks through what it looks like to use AI as a thinking partner — anticipating the blind spots and avoided conflicts in your strategy meetings, mapping second- and third-order effects under pressure, turning vague "alignment" into RACIs with real owners, and exposing the writing gaps that mean you don't actually understand what you're saying. The diagnostic line: if your AI always agrees with you, you're using it wrong. If you need it to write the document, you haven't thought hard enough yet. If your meetings still end without owners, AI didn't fail — your operating model did. The real productivity unlock isn't doing more, faster. It's deciding faster, with cleaner thinking.

4 days ago

Marketing teams are drowning in activity but starving for results — and it's not because they aren't working hard enough. The plan you built in November will be dead two weeks into January, replaced by whatever fire drill rolled out of the CEO's last board meeting. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish expose why most marketing orgs are stuck in reactive mode, what kills annual planning every single year, and the leadership culture problems hiding underneath the busywork. They tackle why most teams can't say no, why the marketing-sales-CS-product fiefdoms are pulling in four directions at once, and the meeting-culture audit every CMO should run on themselves before blaming the team. The hard truth: if a CEO wants the team to change, the CEO has to change three times as much. Most don't, and the marketing team carries the consequences. If your January plan disappeared by February for the fifth straight year, this episode is the diagnosis.

4 days ago

On the first day of 2026, the market gave to me… an AI agent running autonomously. In this solo (and brutally honest) episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz runs through the twelve trends that will define B2B marketing next year — set to a familiar holiday cadence and absolutely zero corporate cheer. AI agents making thousands of calls a minute. Twelve predictive models. Eight hyper-personalized journeys. Seven SDRs panicking. Three dead cookies. Two merged tech stacks. And the CFO who is finally smiling because the dashboards are real this time. Jeff tackles the data hygiene reckoning that's been kicked down the road for a decade, why MarOps and RevOps will become the heartbeat of the organization in 2026, and why the marketers who've been blaming their data for five straight planning seasons are about to lose the argument forever. If you're heading into next year's planning cycle, this is the highlight reel.

4 days ago

Here's the description for episode #21:
Is Your Sales Team Selling... or Just Forecasting?
Most sales processes weren't built to help your team win deals. They were built to help average salespeople sell predictably enough that the CFO could forecast quarterly. There's a difference, and it's costing you revenue. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish call out the legacy trap most B2B sales orgs have walked into. When things get hard, sales doubles down on internal process — pipeline reviews, deal stages, MEDDPICC fields — instead of refocusing on the buyer who's already 70% through the journey before they'll talk to a rep. They unpack "organizational couch potato syndrome" (the comfort routine that's strangling your sales team), why 90-95% of marketing-generated leads still go un-followed-up, and where AI is actually helping (real-time engagement, personalized outreach, intent-aware alerts) versus where it's just lipstick on a broken culture. If your sales team is running 2025 plays from a 1990 process, this episode is the wake-up call.

4 days ago

Anthropic is doing pop-ups. IBM is running activations. Cursor is staging experiences that have nothing to do with a lead form. B2B is suddenly stealing every play from the consumer marketing playbook — and CMOs are quietly wondering whether it's the future or the panic. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish unpack when B2B experiential actually works, when it's an expensive distraction, and what every CMO has to prove before finance kills the budget. They argue the test isn't whether the experience is fun — it's whether it ladders directly to the brand promise. If your brand stands for customer obsession and your activation reinforces customer obsession, you've earned the right to do it. If it's a party with your logo on the wall, you've earned a budget cut. They also tackle the harder question: in an AI-first market where every company is racing to differentiate on the same tech, brand affinity is becoming the only durable moat — and most B2B brands haven't earned one yet.

5 days ago

Attribution is still the fastest way to start an internal fight — because most models were built to defend budgets, not drive revenue decisions. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish dismantle the attribution theater that dominates B2B reporting. They argue the right benchmark isn't a multi-touch model with twelve weighting rules; it's a single number — the percentage of top-line revenue you spend on sales and marketing, and whether the ROI on that spend grows year over year. They walk through what changes when an org stops fighting about attribution and stands up a true revenue team — sales and marketing under one number, one customer journey, one set of growth goals across acquisition, renewal, and expansion. They share the story of a CMO who told her sales team she wasn't doing five trade shows next year, the uproar that followed, and what that exchange revealed about who actually understood the revenue math. If your attribution dashboard is the proxy for sales-marketing alignment, this episode is the reset.

5 days ago

Most of your "A" leads never close. Most of your closed-won deals were never MQLs in the first place. Roughly 30% of teams running marketing automation don't even have lead scoring turned on. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish expose lead scoring's dirty little secret: most models are stuck scoring top-of-funnel net-new leads using behaviors that no longer correlate with revenue. They walk through what good scoring actually requires — using AI to interpret behavior signals at depth, scoring beyond the new-logo funnel into customer expansion (NPS, login rates, usage, renewal participation), and the discipline of making sure every lead handed to sales is the highest-converting one possible. Their argument is blunt: if marketing isn't hyper-focused on conversion-to-revenue, what is the point of showing up? If you've left your scoring model untouched since the year you implemented Marketo, this episode is the audit.

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