Revenue Marketing Raw

Revenue Marketing Raw is a weekly unscripted B2B marketing podcast hosted by Jeff Pedowitz and Dr. Debbie Qaqish of The Pedowitz Group. Each 20-30 minute episode tackles one topic that makes CMOs sweat: AI's real impact on marketing teams, the death of MQLs, what's broken about pipeline coverage, why most ABM is just expensive lead gen, how Answer Engine Optimization (AEO) is replacing SEO, and what it actually takes to run marketing as a revenue function.

The show is built for senior B2B marketing leaders: CMOs being asked to do more with less, VPs of Marketing and RevOps tired of dashboards that don't tie to revenue, Marketing Operations leaders stuck in IT support mode, and founders evaluating where AI moves the needle versus where it's theater.

What makes it different: no guest pitches, no vendor sponsorships, no buzzwords, no scripted talking points. Just two senior practitioners, together representing 40+ years of advising Fortune 500 CMOs, saying the quiet part out loud. Debbie coined the term "Revenue Marketing" in 2010, TPG formalized it in 2012, and she has since authored Rise of the Revenue Marketer and From Backroom to Boardroom. Jeff has authored F the Funnel, The Revenue Marketer, AI Agents Made Simple, and The Attic and The Algorithm, and hosts CMO Insights, where he has interviewed 130+ marketing leaders.

New episodes drop every Tuesday. Watch on YouTube and Vimeo, listen on Apple Podcasts and Spotify, or subscribe to the weekly email at pedowitzgroup.com/revenue-marketing-raw.

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Episodes

Thursday May 07, 2026

Most companies are using AI to see how low they can go on cost. Wrong play. AI isn't a cost-cutting tool — it's the new operating system for the entire business, and the leaders treating it like a headcount-reduction lever are about to lose to the ones treating it like a force multiplier. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish unpack what AI as an operating system actually looks like, with sharp focus on the sales function — because every salesperson has tools available right now that most aren't using. They walk through the new pre-call brief workflow (an AI agent now produces a richer prospect dossier in 90 seconds than a junior rep could build in a week), why every sales methodology — Sandler, Miller Heiman, Challenger — needs to be retrofitted with AI as a coaching layer, and the rate-yourself-after-every-call discipline that separates good reps from great ones. They also tackle the hardest reframe: it's not human or AI; it's human plus AI, with systems and processes redesigned around the partnership. If your AI strategy is "we deployed Copilot to save money," this episode is the better blueprint.

Thursday May 07, 2026

Efficiency doesn't create growth. It kills it. The marketing teams celebrated for "doing more with less" are usually the ones quietly being optimized into irrelevance. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish challenge the productivity gospel that's run B2B marketing for the past decade. They argue most teams aren't under-resourced — they're under-strategized, drowning in execution because nobody at the C-level forced the strategy conversation. They make the case that the path to power for any CMO is owning the customer (win-loss interviews, sales call ride-alongs, customer advisory boards) and turning that intelligence into a strategic point of view the rest of the executive team has to listen to. They tackle why "customer, customer, customer" rhetoric without long-term brand investment is a trap, why short-term revenue accountability has to coexist with a real strategy budget, and how AI changes what's possible — marketing should only be limited by imagination now, not by capacity. If your CMO is producing campaigns instead of strategy, this episode is the wake-up call.

Thursday May 07, 2026

The fear of being left behind is real. The solution isn't more time — it's a smarter approach. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish tackle the most honest excuse in marketing right now: I'd love to learn AI, but I'm running three systems, four campaigns, and the CEO's latest pet project — when exactly am I supposed to fit it in? They reframe the problem entirely. There is no AI mastermind inside your company. There's no go-to expert like there was for Salesforce or HubSpot fifteen years ago. Everyone — from MarOps to the CMO — is figuring this out at the same time. The only path forward is a weekly experimentation cadence, treating AI learning like a fitness habit instead of a course you finish, and giving every team member explicit permission to spend a slice of their week breaking things with new tools. They tackle the data security shortcut every CMO needs to know (yes, enterprise plans protect your data — that excuse is gone), why the time savings AI promises will never feel like time savings without a culture change, and the hardest truth: the marketers who won't carve out 30 minutes a day this year will be replaced by the ones who did.

Thursday May 07, 2026

Marketing doesn't have a strategy problem. It has a human performance problem. The smartest marketing leaders we know — the ones who've earned every promotion, who genuinely love the craft — are quietly struggling. The pressure is unsustainable, the complexity is compounding, and there's nowhere safe for a CMO to go say "I'm overwhelmed." In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish go somewhere most B2B podcasts won't: the psychological reality of leading marketing in 2026. They argue that marketing leadership now requires a set of human capabilities the profession never trained for — positive psychology, executive resilience, the ability to decide every morning what story you want to live that day. They share what's working in the executive coaching and team workshops they're running, why MarOps people in particular benefit from purpose-at-work conversations, and why no — AI is not going to lower the stress level for marketing leaders, it's going to raise it. If you've been telling yourself "I'm fine" for six straight quarters and you know you're not, this episode is the permission slip.

The MQL is Dead

Thursday May 07, 2026

Thursday May 07, 2026

The MQL is dead. CFOs killed it. And honestly? Good riddance. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish run the post-mortem on the metric that defined two decades of B2B marketing — and explain what's actually replacing it. They argue the right unit of measurement isn't the lead anymore. It's pipeline contribution, pipeline influence, sales cycle acceleration, and win rate by channel — every metric that has a dollar value attached and ladders directly to revenue. They tackle the painful prerequisite to all of this (clean CRM data, which 30 years of marketing leaders have collectively refused to budget for), why AI revenue forecasting will only matter as much as the data underneath it, and why MarOps and RevOps under a unified data model is the structural fix that finally puts marketing on the same revenue scorecard as sales and customer success. If your team still reports MQL volume up to the CMO every Monday, this episode is the funeral.

Thursday May 07, 2026

Everyone is talking about AI replacing marketers. Almost no one is writing job descriptions for the roles coming next. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish go where most marketing leaders are afraid to: what the marketing org chart actually looks like in 2027. The MarOps manager becomes an AI process architect. The demand gen team shrinks because agents are now executing the campaigns. Sales as a function may not survive the decade in its current form. The customer experience function — finally — gets unified across every team that touches a buyer, because AI makes the silos indefensible. They walk through what every CMO should be doing right now: pull the whole marketing team into a room, audit what AI capabilities you actually have in your hands, agree on standards for what AI success looks like inside your team, and build the multi-year capability map. They also tackle the question nobody wants to answer out loud: between sales and marketing, which function gets blown up first? If you're hiring, restructuring, or planning headcount for next year, this is the episode that should change how you write the org chart.

Thursday May 07, 2026

Answer Engine Optimization isn't SEO 2.0. It's not even the same game. SEO is a click economy — your goal is to win the visit. AEO is a citation economy — your goal is to be the answer buyers see before they ever click anything. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish strip the hype off AEO and lay out what actually works. They walk through how the LLMs decide which brands they cite — third-party authority, organic conversations on Reddit and forums, structured topical depth — and why the marketers who built thousands of empty SEO landing pages are now sitting on a depreciating asset. They make the case for building topic clusters around what you actually want to be known for (Jeff's are revenue marketing, AEO, and HubSpot), monitoring branded mentions across organic conversation channels, and treating Reddit as a serious B2B intent signal that virtually no marketer is actually mining. They also tackle the strategic question: do you optimize content to flatter your own brand, or do you write to make AI engines confidently cite you over your competitors? If your AEO strategy is "we added schema markup," this episode is the next ten chapters.

Thursday May 07, 2026

Only 30% of CMOs trust their own attribution numbers. The other 70% know the dashboard is theater — they just don't have anything better to defend the budget with. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish call time of death on traditional marketing attribution and lay out what actually replaces it. They argue the right unit of measurement isn't the lead or the touchpoint — it's the account. Cohort growth. Customer lifetime value. Wallet share. Pipeline penetration. And the single conversation every CMO needs to have this quarter: sit down with the CFO and the RevOps leader, and agree together on what proves ROI to the business — before the CFO defines it for you. They tackle why AI search is shattering the click-attribution model entirely, why content slop is making the data even worse, and why the marketers who'll survive the next 18 months are the ones treating marketing as a financial function, not a campaign function. If your dashboard still revolves around touchpoints, this episode is the obituary.

Thursday May 07, 2026

Most people use ChatGPT to avoid thinking. They paste in a half-formed problem and ask the AI to fix it. The output is fine. The thinking is gone. In this solo episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz reframes how marketers should actually be using AI: not as a faster way to crank out work, but as a mirror that forces clarity before you commit to anything. Jeff walks through what it looks like to use AI as a thinking partner — anticipating the blind spots and avoided conflicts in your strategy meetings, mapping second- and third-order effects under pressure, turning vague "alignment" into RACIs with real owners, and exposing the writing gaps that mean you don't actually understand what you're saying. The diagnostic line: if your AI always agrees with you, you're using it wrong. If you need it to write the document, you haven't thought hard enough yet. If your meetings still end without owners, AI didn't fail — your operating model did. The real productivity unlock isn't doing more, faster. It's deciding faster, with cleaner thinking.

Thursday May 07, 2026

Marketing teams are drowning in activity but starving for results — and it's not because they aren't working hard enough. The plan you built in November will be dead two weeks into January, replaced by whatever fire drill rolled out of the CEO's last board meeting. In this episode of Revenue Marketing Raw, Jeff Pedowitz and Debbie Qaqish expose why most marketing orgs are stuck in reactive mode, what kills annual planning every single year, and the leadership culture problems hiding underneath the busywork. They tackle why most teams can't say no, why the marketing-sales-CS-product fiefdoms are pulling in four directions at once, and the meeting-culture audit every CMO should run on themselves before blaming the team. The hard truth: if a CEO wants the team to change, the CEO has to change three times as much. Most don't, and the marketing team carries the consequences. If your January plan disappeared by February for the fifth straight year, this episode is the diagnosis.

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